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Originally broadcast November 22, 2022

When we have a guest like “Shark Tank” star Mark Cuban, it’s can be hard to keep up with all his thoughts. He was a bundle of energy in November 2022 explaining his then-new venture trying to reform how Americans can purchase lower-priced drugs; he called it “dunking on the pharma industry.” Since our conversation, experts say Cuban has become a major disrupter in generic drug pricing. Cost Plus now offers 2,500 drugs and has signed up a large list of health systems.

Join us for this encore presentation as hosts Mark Masselli and Margaret Flinter ask Cuban to explain how his approach also includes introducing transparency to drug pricing.

Originally broadcast August 3, 2023

Experts report we’re dealing with the hottest summer on record for the second year in a row. Phoenix has recorded 100 straight days of over 100-degree weather; Hollywood Burbank Airport in the Los Angeles area matched its all-time high temperature with a reading of 114.

In Los Angeles, the city is taking action to help its people deal with the temperatures through the leadership of Marta Segura, one of the few appointed chief heat officers in the world. Her work is focused on finding solutions when the weather causes physical and mental health issues and she’s keeping equity at the forefront of her efforts. Segura explains how an aware and engaged public is key to the effective implementation of climate policies.

This all occurs as U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Xavier Becerra has declared extreme heat a rising public health crisis.

Join us for this encore “Conversations on Health Care” with hosts Mark Masselli and Margaret Flinter.

Originall broadcast September 5, 2024

Did you know private equity now owns one-third of private hospitals in the country and the percentage is growing? Private equity is a controversial type of financing typically seen in the technology and media sectors that’s now attracted to health care.

It’s a trend that greatly troubles Erin Fuse Brown. She’s a professor of health services, policy and practice at Brown University’s School of Public Health and its Center for Advancing Health Policy through Research.

She explains to “Conversations on Health Care” hosts Mark Masselli and Margaret Flinter that private equity’s practice is to cut wages and employees and substitute highly trained staff with lower skilled substitutes. She says, “It means worse patient care in many instances and that is what we see is leading to the greater risks of mortality and adverse events for hospital and nursing home patients after a private equity acquisition.”

Fuse Brown also discusses why it’s so difficult to figure out who actually owns your hospital and the latest details about the effort to ban employees’ noncompete bans.

Originally broadcast August 29, 2024

Gallup reports that a record-high 32% of U.S. voters say they will only vote for a candidate for major office who shares their views on abortion. Indeed, the upcoming November presidential election will be the first one since the Supreme Court ended the constitutional right to abortion. The Washington reporters who cover health care policy and political maneuverings join us on “Conversations on Health Care” to discuss how Vice President Kamala Harris highlighted the contrasts between the parties as former President Donald Trump has issued statements that appear to muddy the issue.

Discussing reproductive rights and other issues are:

• Shannon Firth with MedPage Today

• Ben Leonard with POLITICO

• Sarah Owermohle with STAT News

Hosts Mark Masselli and Margaret Flinter also ask them about gun violence, medical debt, Medicaid, and the future of the Affordable Care Act and its subsidies. Be sure to listen to what health-related question each of these journalists would like to ask the presidential candidates if given the chance—some of their questions may surprise you!

Originally broadcast August 22, 2024

Some patients are concerned about how far artificial intelligence (AI) is creeping into the exam room. But AI has been part of health care longer than most realize, according to Dr. Isaac Kohane, a groundbreaking Harvard University professor.

Kohane is the editor-in-chief of the New England Journal of Medicine’s first publication devoted to AI. He tells hosts Mark Masselli and Margaret Flinter that “In the 1980s, automated interpretation of an [echocardiogram] would have been considered AI. Now it’s the ability to look through a patient’s record and come up with a differential diagnosis, a second opinion, a therapeutic plan.”

Kohane shares a success story of a mother whose child had difficulty walking and chewing, suffered from headaches and had seen more than a dozen doctors over many years, with no diagnosis. After one doctor recommended a psychiatric course of action, the mother fed the reports from various past medical visits into a generative AI program, which suggested tethered cord syndrome.

Cases like this can represent AI’s potential, says Kohane. But the nascent technology raises issues of bias. “You can run tests on these AI programs and say, ‘Would you propose that diagnosis more often if this was an African-American or an Indian-American?’ … And you can adjust these programs,” Kohane says. The exciting part is that the adjustment would be easier than undoing even unconscious bias among hundreds of thousands of health care professionals, he explains.

Originally broadcast August 15, 2024

Dr. Aaron Carroll raises eyebrows with statements that highlight contradictory health advice: “‘Eggs are going to kill you because of cholesterol’ — ‘oh, it actually doesn’t matter. Eat as many eggs as you like.’ ‘Red meat will kill you.’ ‘Oh no, read meat can be part of a diet.’ ‘Drink no alcohol’ … ‘Oh, no no. Drinking red wine is perfectly healthy.’”

Dr. Carroll has devoted his career to advocating for scientific and research communities need to improve how they discuss nuance, especially in health. Dr. Carroll, serving as CEO of the AcademyHealth, says “science is portrayed as binary — positive or negative — and that can breed mistrust from the public.”

“The way that we discuss nutrition and food [can] burn people’s belief in science, in that it feels like people are told one or the other,” Dr. Carroll tells “Conversations on Health Care” hosts Mark Masselli and Margaret Flinter.

For most people, ramping up or cutting out consumption of one particular food “can add a tiny bit of risk here or there. But the extremes that we are often sold, one way or the other, about what you should and should not eat are often not really well-supported by science,” he says.

It’s not that new data disproves old research, he says. But both add up to a more complex picture. “When you describe things in absolute terms … it creates a climate where people don’t trust exactly what you’re saying.”

Despite the constantly changing nature of science, nurses and doctors are still consistently held in high trust, Dr. Carroll says. One way to add nuance to public discourse is to use trusted voices to help people understand what questions to ask when they hear new information: Pre-buttal, as opposed to rebuttal, as he puts it. “[That] is much more powerful than trying to change their minds after they’ve heard things that are just not true.”